Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mau Maus

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The result of the debate was keep. Sjakkalle 08:44, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Mau_Maus

Unencyclopedic, poorly written, POV. Delete. Andrew pmk 02:47, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Fixed Link, Will Try For db since it sounds like someone flaunting their supposed gang affiliations. - Damicatz 02:49, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Keep, gangs are not unencyclopedic. bbx 03:44, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete: Gangs are unencyclopedic if they're not verifiable, if their not significant, and if they have no historical importance. Since Mau Mau is a tribe, this title is downright silly. Since there are no references and no words in the article but a single, bald statement, there is nothing at all to redeem this. Predicate nominatives are not articles: they're facts, at most. A fact is not an article. Geogre 05:57, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• But it is verifiable, try google for it. Also there is an article on wp (Nicky Cruz) linking to Mau Maus. bbx 08:08, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That's fine if it's an article. Really, it's not the gang thing, but the lack of references, the lack of discussion, the lack of anything at all except "was a gang." I'm a real hawk for substubs and have an itchy delete finger when it comes to them. If the article was generated simply to fill a link from Nicky Cruz, then it shouldn't have been attempted until the author had some information. I would like for the article itself to convince me of its worth by actually informing me and educating me on something. Verification could come from even a single citation. Geogre 03:32, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Delete, article does not establish notability, trivial. Megan1967 07:04, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, gangs are encyclopedic if they are verifiable, significant, and have historical importance. I get 10,300 hits for ' "mau mau" gang "new york" " [1]. The original article had at least two facts, and even some finite verbs. Kappa 07:53, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep all articles with at least two facts and some finite verbs on notable gangs. Radiant_* 11:53, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
• Note. IIRC, Mau Maus were about as famous as gangs like Crips and Bloods thought not particularly large. The present article, however, is hardly informative. No vote yet - Skysmith"
• Keep. Article is a classic stub, but the topic is encyclopedic. -Casito 08:54, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable 1950's Puerto Rican gang with Nicky Cruz as a member. Salvador Agron was a member of the Mau Mau's before he became a member of another gang called the Vampires when he performed the Capeman murders in 1959 - Paul Simon wrote a Broadway show based on his story. The Spike Lee film Bamboozled featured a fictional rap group called the Mau Mau's featuring Mos Def and Canibus. This group released a single called Blak is Blak. I hope to write an article based on this information. Capitalistroadster 10:18, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep The Mau Maus did exist and are note worthy as part of NYC history Paradiso 10:36, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep This is a stub, and it appears there is enough notability about the Mau Mau street gang to warrant an entry. Perhaps Capitalistroadster would be so kind as to edit the article to include some of the info found that is used here in the article's defense. That would certainly increase the value of the entry. -- Glen Finney 14:22, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and allow for organic growth. VfD is not cleanup. --GRider\^talk 18:26, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable topic, but needs to be seriously expanded. --FuriousFreddy 23:46, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Comment. I have now expanded the article based on my vote above. No change from Keep. Capitalistroadster 11:44, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, then. Notable enough. VladMV ٭ ^talk 15:35, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Now that it's been expanded, it is a significant article. *Dan* 02:31, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep has good information. User:Ted-m
• Keep this is an article with interesting information; particularly as the Mau-Maus feature in a number of popular books. Oliver Keenan 17:45, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)

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